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reflectedeve) wrote2006-05-09 11:11 pm
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and I don't need no carryin' on
I need to be writing right now, but I'm still reeling from the Veronica Mars finale. Haven't posted a reaction to a TV episode in so long, but in the absence of ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
sweetvalleyslut, I must vent somehow. And lo, it is a long, long venting.
I've been poking through the Television Without Pity forums. Kind of wish I hadn't, because I'm not getting an overall vibe of intelligence there, but it is helping clarify things a little.
This episode made me cry, which is kind of a rare occurance. I had kind of a flash of foreboding about Keith towards the beginning of the episode, which turned into a full-fledged premonition when he was having Woody loaded onto the plane. After all, Keith is the one person on the show that Veronica just couldn't survive losing, I think. I definitely believed that he'd died, though looking back, it might have been a good bit of overkill to have Cassidy responsible for that, too.
(Why do people keep asking if Lamb's dead? It would have been that local sheriff--the one from the vicinity of the hunting lodge--on the plane, wouldn't it? Besides, I don't think Michael Muhney would have been quite so gleeful if he wasn't coming back.)
Some people seem to think that Cassidy was out of character, that his villainhood was sudden and tacked-on. I don't really agree. Certainly people were speculating he was the killer, and while I just thought he was a victim, I don't find it beyond belief. It's more that I liked the character too much and wanted him to stay on. People who think the darkness came out of nowhere are crazy: he's always been rather tormented, and we certainly saw a fraction of the vicious mood when he was breaking up with Mac a few episodes ago. He's also extremely intelligent, and capable of being quite devious, as the whole Phoenix Land Trust bit illustrated. Nevermind the need to get back at his family and such for seeing him as a worthless wimp. (People are also comparing the episode to Leave It To Beaver, of course, which I don't feel equipped to do. Certainly LITB had a much tighter season behind it. On the other hand, I thought Aaron as the killer was much more out of the blue.)
I was completely shocked by the rape thing, but wow. I have to say, I never thought that the mismatching stories about Shelly's party seemed completely settled before, and I'm impressed by the ability to carry something like that over from the first season. I thought the chlamydia diagnosis was fake; I can't believe I didn't catch on when it was revealed that Woody had it too, but I guess I was preoccupied.
Oh Cassidy. I rather loved you, fucked-up little boy that you were, and I still definitely feel awful . . . not a completely evil motherfucker like Aaron, but a brilliant kid who was treated horribly in both large and small ways and wound up irreperably twisted. That last exchange with Logan, whew. Poor, poor Mac. I hope very much that she gets to be a regular next season.
I'm pretty sure there's a next season. "CW? Done deal." Or was that wishful thinking on RT's part? Either way, I didn't get it when I saw it, and when people were talking about it on the forum it startled a laugh out of me. Oh, and is it bad that I like Duncan a whole bunch better all of a sudden? I mean, he finally did something. And I've never been so unashamedly happy about a fictional murder, either. I like a lot of villains, but I rather viscerally hated Aaron.
Veronica's own private Scooby moment was starting to bug me, but I remembered. People compare her to Sherlock Holmes and Nancy Drew; it's a detective show. The formulaic reveal by the detective is kind of a tradition. I don't mind that much. Even though I was surprised that she'd jump from "molested" to "killer" right away . . . I mean, I just assumed that Woody was trying to kill him too. But then, that wouldn't have explained the rat, would it? Huh.
It was also kind of stupid of her to go up on the roof like that, much as it was kind of stupid of her to leave the Kane house and go driving off alone in LITB. Veronica isn't always completely together in the heat of the moment. *shrug* It was frustrating, but kind of inevitable.
I love, I love Clemmons. That exchange with Veronica as she was graduating was fantastic. I will miss him.
The Jackie bit was kind of nifty, but I don't care that much. She was a character I was never really able to get into, even if I did start to like her a little.
Weevil, oh god. Lamb, you bastard. There's the number one element I'll be on pins-and-needles about all summer, I can say that right now.
The dream creeped me out. I kind of love Lilly (horrendous bitch that she is), and it was great seeing her (and hee to the girl/girl thing, someone write me some real Veronica/Lilly), but no world in which Veronica and Wallace are not friends is worth it. Also, whoa, Lianne. I wonder if there will be more of her next season? Because that was kind of unresolved.
I'm a sucker for Logan/Veronica again. I feel as though I'm letting some stuff slide by being happy about them, but what can I say? I am shallow, at least sometimes. Also, the episode was just so upsetting that I needed the happy. It shall require further thought. I mean . . . I don't necessarily think it made sense for them to be instantly with the happy kissing at that point. They have a lot of talking that they need to do. I do see them being back together: both of them clearly care about each other, it's been building, and he did do the big heroic savior thing (and the taking care of her after bit as well). But it's still complicated. His actions of the summer haven't gone away.
The cliffhanger makes me a little nervous. I hate Kendall, and clearly that wasn't just a high-paying case she was telling Keith about. It has to be a pretty damn big deal for him to have left Veronica waiting for him like that (and not to have called during the ride to the airport, even to let her know he'd be late). This may be way off, but my preliminary thought is that it might involve Lianne. I mean, they did kind of remind us of her existence, out of the blue. Though I have no idea why Kendall would know anything about her, or care.
I wonder if the next season will pick up after the summer again? Or right away?
Things I wish had been covered: the "Neptune Civil War," the Mannings, Lucky (particularly connected to the Mannings). Survivable, but the first one, the more I think about it, kind of bugs me. The class tensions are a really important part of Neptune, and with the Incorporation issue--not to mention Logan and his attitude/activities--I thought they'd stay more forefront, but they kind of faded to the background. While I'm more satisfied with the reasons behind the bus crash than some seem to be, the fact nothing seemed to have anything to do with class? Troubles me.
Anyway, these are those immediate and highly emotional reactions I usually have after watching something like this. I guess my response is positive overall (though it was more like "augh," really), but I'll probably need to calm down and try being critical once I've cooled off a bit. Though I should really work first. I barely accomplished anything today.
[ETA:] There's a post-finale interview with Rob Thomas here. It is very spoilery. Do NOT read it until you've seen the episode.
sweetvalleyslut, I must vent somehow. And lo, it is a long, long venting.I've been poking through the Television Without Pity forums. Kind of wish I hadn't, because I'm not getting an overall vibe of intelligence there, but it is helping clarify things a little.
This episode made me cry, which is kind of a rare occurance. I had kind of a flash of foreboding about Keith towards the beginning of the episode, which turned into a full-fledged premonition when he was having Woody loaded onto the plane. After all, Keith is the one person on the show that Veronica just couldn't survive losing, I think. I definitely believed that he'd died, though looking back, it might have been a good bit of overkill to have Cassidy responsible for that, too.
(Why do people keep asking if Lamb's dead? It would have been that local sheriff--the one from the vicinity of the hunting lodge--on the plane, wouldn't it? Besides, I don't think Michael Muhney would have been quite so gleeful if he wasn't coming back.)
Some people seem to think that Cassidy was out of character, that his villainhood was sudden and tacked-on. I don't really agree. Certainly people were speculating he was the killer, and while I just thought he was a victim, I don't find it beyond belief. It's more that I liked the character too much and wanted him to stay on. People who think the darkness came out of nowhere are crazy: he's always been rather tormented, and we certainly saw a fraction of the vicious mood when he was breaking up with Mac a few episodes ago. He's also extremely intelligent, and capable of being quite devious, as the whole Phoenix Land Trust bit illustrated. Nevermind the need to get back at his family and such for seeing him as a worthless wimp. (People are also comparing the episode to Leave It To Beaver, of course, which I don't feel equipped to do. Certainly LITB had a much tighter season behind it. On the other hand, I thought Aaron as the killer was much more out of the blue.)
I was completely shocked by the rape thing, but wow. I have to say, I never thought that the mismatching stories about Shelly's party seemed completely settled before, and I'm impressed by the ability to carry something like that over from the first season. I thought the chlamydia diagnosis was fake; I can't believe I didn't catch on when it was revealed that Woody had it too, but I guess I was preoccupied.
Oh Cassidy. I rather loved you, fucked-up little boy that you were, and I still definitely feel awful . . . not a completely evil motherfucker like Aaron, but a brilliant kid who was treated horribly in both large and small ways and wound up irreperably twisted. That last exchange with Logan, whew. Poor, poor Mac. I hope very much that she gets to be a regular next season.
I'm pretty sure there's a next season. "CW? Done deal." Or was that wishful thinking on RT's part? Either way, I didn't get it when I saw it, and when people were talking about it on the forum it startled a laugh out of me. Oh, and is it bad that I like Duncan a whole bunch better all of a sudden? I mean, he finally did something. And I've never been so unashamedly happy about a fictional murder, either. I like a lot of villains, but I rather viscerally hated Aaron.
Veronica's own private Scooby moment was starting to bug me, but I remembered. People compare her to Sherlock Holmes and Nancy Drew; it's a detective show. The formulaic reveal by the detective is kind of a tradition. I don't mind that much. Even though I was surprised that she'd jump from "molested" to "killer" right away . . . I mean, I just assumed that Woody was trying to kill him too. But then, that wouldn't have explained the rat, would it? Huh.
It was also kind of stupid of her to go up on the roof like that, much as it was kind of stupid of her to leave the Kane house and go driving off alone in LITB. Veronica isn't always completely together in the heat of the moment. *shrug* It was frustrating, but kind of inevitable.
I love, I love Clemmons. That exchange with Veronica as she was graduating was fantastic. I will miss him.
The Jackie bit was kind of nifty, but I don't care that much. She was a character I was never really able to get into, even if I did start to like her a little.
Weevil, oh god. Lamb, you bastard. There's the number one element I'll be on pins-and-needles about all summer, I can say that right now.
The dream creeped me out. I kind of love Lilly (horrendous bitch that she is), and it was great seeing her (and hee to the girl/girl thing, someone write me some real Veronica/Lilly), but no world in which Veronica and Wallace are not friends is worth it. Also, whoa, Lianne. I wonder if there will be more of her next season? Because that was kind of unresolved.
I'm a sucker for Logan/Veronica again. I feel as though I'm letting some stuff slide by being happy about them, but what can I say? I am shallow, at least sometimes. Also, the episode was just so upsetting that I needed the happy. It shall require further thought. I mean . . . I don't necessarily think it made sense for them to be instantly with the happy kissing at that point. They have a lot of talking that they need to do. I do see them being back together: both of them clearly care about each other, it's been building, and he did do the big heroic savior thing (and the taking care of her after bit as well). But it's still complicated. His actions of the summer haven't gone away.
The cliffhanger makes me a little nervous. I hate Kendall, and clearly that wasn't just a high-paying case she was telling Keith about. It has to be a pretty damn big deal for him to have left Veronica waiting for him like that (and not to have called during the ride to the airport, even to let her know he'd be late). This may be way off, but my preliminary thought is that it might involve Lianne. I mean, they did kind of remind us of her existence, out of the blue. Though I have no idea why Kendall would know anything about her, or care.
I wonder if the next season will pick up after the summer again? Or right away?
Things I wish had been covered: the "Neptune Civil War," the Mannings, Lucky (particularly connected to the Mannings). Survivable, but the first one, the more I think about it, kind of bugs me. The class tensions are a really important part of Neptune, and with the Incorporation issue--not to mention Logan and his attitude/activities--I thought they'd stay more forefront, but they kind of faded to the background. While I'm more satisfied with the reasons behind the bus crash than some seem to be, the fact nothing seemed to have anything to do with class? Troubles me.
Anyway, these are those immediate and highly emotional reactions I usually have after watching something like this. I guess my response is positive overall (though it was more like "augh," really), but I'll probably need to calm down and try being critical once I've cooled off a bit. Though I should really work first. I barely accomplished anything today.
[ETA:] There's a post-finale interview with Rob Thomas here. It is very spoilery. Do NOT read it until you've seen the episode.